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Luis,
Thanks for your comments! Could you provide more clarity? When you say “this is closer” and “we could do it in our sleep” what exactly do you mean? From the Bielsa video I couldn’t really tell what they were doing (looked like a run of the mill SSG). I know you were showing the way the coach interacted with the players but I’m also interested in what kind of training activities you did at Newell’s.
Aman,
Thank you for the thoughtful response and context… reinforces that Twitter is not the format for discussions. Your comments are spot on and will help me in future discussions. I’m finding that many coaches in this country react to the idea of young kids learning rondos because they believe it replaces the individual technique/skill elements (not my experience) and that it is too “tactical”/too young. I like the idea of providing young kids with the foundation positional and possession skills/knowledge and a general structure for how to move the the ball/opponents (what you talked about in your response) and then allowing them to express their creativity and technical skills within that framework. My experience has been that their individual flair and creativity is so much more effective within a “loose” positional/possession framework. Then its just a matter of layering in more as they grow older and tightening up the ideas and execution.
Would Messi be the phenom he is if he had not gone through La Masia and learned the Barca way? I also like this video clip of Pep talking about different types of players: http://news.adidas.com/global/Latest-News/Pep-Guardiola-On-The-Football-Revolution—Gamedayplus-Special—adidas-Football-/s/f53db6ff-2f8e-4987-92a2-48613da20a7a
Nuno,
Much appreciated and Happy New Year!
Hans
Most coaches would have been happy with the way Chivas played the ball out of the back and would now move on to the obvious deficiencies in midfield and attack. However, I noticed Brian’s frustration with Blake and Nigel that they weren’t dropping off and that they had no “awareness”. This was really limiting the Chivas attack going forward because it allowed San Juan to shift and stay compact. The best insight so far that I have gained from watching Brian is that idea of mastery and not being satisfied with just “getting it” at a basic level. Continue hammering until they are gold!
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Gary,
That actually helps a lot! What I hear you saying is that having the 3Four3 “framework” in mind as you assess players allows you to start assembling the specific positional pieces rather than just general raw characteristics. I hadn’t thought about the positional aspect. I also hear you saying that the recruiting/evaluating process doesn’t stop and if players aren’t cutting the mustard then new players can be brought in to replace them? How often do you replace players?
Ha! I have this same debate in my head every season. Stay the course and keep working toward mastery! Remember that Guardiola said the whole point of possession was to move the other team to exploit the space. If they space is in behind then that’s where the ball should go. Breaking the lines with a weighted through ball is different then hoofing it up the field.
Wow… surprised by this thread topic. If anything I think they gave use too much to digest! If mastery is the goal then you will be having your players focused on only a few of these concepts at a time until they can do it in their sleep (see #1 in Eric’s reply about Pete Carroll). It is also just as much about you as a coach achieving mastery as it is the players.
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Andrew,
Thanks for your input… of your three characteristics I tend to agree with #’s 2 & 3 the most. Attitude is huge as is the ability (or natural tendency) to have 360 awareness. I think #1 can be developed by good coaching where TIC is emphasized.
I try to look for players who naturally seem to want the ball, want to solve problems with the ball, try to use various techniques to solve problems vs. trying to use their physical abilities to find a solution. However, sometimes it isn’t the fault of the player but their previous coaches who emphasized their athleticism. Can’t a good coach retrain this mentality with enough time?
I guess I’m also wondering about physical characteristics. As we know, most US coaches look for the prototypical US athlete: tall, strong, fast, mature for age, etc. and therefore exclude many smaller players. If you look at Barcelona you have Busquets and Pique vs Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, etc. They all excel at this style yet have different physical characteristics. So what are the characteristics that they look for at La Masia (as mentioned by Brian in the audio interview)? Do physical traits even matter?
Add me to the chapter please! You can read my bio in the Intro thread but I coach the boys varsity at South Albany HS and am the Technical Director at Albany FC. I would love to meet with you guys and talk soccer, network, etc.
I will be coaching a boys U10 team starting in May and would love to schedule some friendlies with other U10 teams trying to implement the same style of play and philosophy. I’m also always looking for friendlies for my high school boys in the summer if any of you coach high school teams.
For me just schedule the meeting and I’ll make sure I’m there.
My name is Hans Schneiter and I ply my trade (or art) in the Albany, Oregon area as the varsity boys coach at South Albany HS and as the Technical Director for Albany FC. I previously coached the boys at Newberg HS (Oregon) and as the Director of Coaching for Newberg SC. In my 12 years of coaching I have been slowly developing a philosophy, or framework, for a possession-based, attacking and pressing style of play but without any guidance or other coaches who shared this vision. I first looked to the USSF and NSCAA licensing courses for direction and a community of like minded travelers but was left more disillusioned than when I started. I heard all the right buzzwords from these, and other, camps in the US soccer hierarchy but the actual substance was sh*t! Through some mentoring from a local Dutch ex-pat and falling in love with Guardiola’s Barca I realized I was looking in the wrong place (mainly US soccer). That’s when I found the YouTube videos of Brian’s teams, the 3Four3 blog, etc. and here I am absolutely loving this resource and eating it up! I’ll be starting up a new U10 boys team this spring and am chomping at the bit to start implementing these ideas. It will also help me refine my high school coaching to better communicate the ideas that I have been trying to implement.
Our club just started up last year and is at the perfect place to create a structure that makes these ideas part of the foundation and future. I’m hoping that the 3Four3 community will be a place to hear about other’s experiences and solutions in trying to create clubs and structures that support this philosophy, style of play, and method of developing players.
Thanks Gary & Brian for being willing to share! I know I would never have the balls to be so vulnerable.
Twitter: @schneiter_hans
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Can someone summarize for the non-Spanish speakers?
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