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4v1 Rondo
1st clips are U9s and 2nd clips are U10 kids.
We have struggled on when to start the rondo and if there are more basic drills we should do with U7s and U8s.
I think we have decided that if you take pressure out, it’s both a challenging and simply enough drill for most kids.
U10’s have been working on 4v1 rondo most of the fall season and U9s have just started to focus on it in the last few weeks.
We plan to post some update videos and game footage. Hopefully show the transition into possession in games.
Love to hear your feedback as always! 🙂
Here is some game highlights from about this time last year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLkeuUMMBLI
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Alec.
Alec – keep it up. We are three weeks into our indoor season and I am doing 4 vs 0, and 4 vs 1 for the first 20 minutes of every session. The kids have improved dramatically. I have 3 or 4 players who have been doing this with me for a full year and you can see the difference in quality. However, I have to admit, I was surprised last night at how much better even my most technically poor players have improved.
The biggest difference I have found has been in our games. The kids are more willing to play inside out, backwards in order to keep possession as opposed to the teams we are playing, who are simply relying on 1 or 2 gifted players to dribble the length of the field. There is very little passing or intent in the teams we are playing. I am confident that in 2 to 3 years when the kids have developed a better mental awareness around the game, we will be miles ahead of these same teams. The progress is already evident.
Best regards,
Damian
Canada
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Damian.
Thanks Damian,
I’m excited to see how it translates to the game. Are you trying to do any set tactical work with them. Like basic ideas on how to move it around the back with your kids?
I have just been doing the basic out of the back drill before games.
The main way I’m trying to get the 4v0 and 4v1 rondo to translate to games is by talking about it in all the other drills in practice. We focus on using the farthest foot in all possession drills, scrimmages and doing two touch mandatory in possession drills and scrimmages sometimes. It’s a turn over if you obviously use the wrong foot or take 1 or 3 touches. I’ll try to get some game footage up, this is the youngest I’ve ever tried to teach possession, so I’m not an expert. I’m experiments with how to translate all Brian and Gary’s stuff to my teams, lets hope the experiment goes well!
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Email me at damian@cbwilliams.com and I can send you a sample practice plan… we have been repeating the same theme every session. Rondos to start, broader possession based activity, and then finish with playing out of the back. I use my asst. coach to do coordination with one group while I work on playing out of the back with a group of 5. This way, 5 kids are not standing around and not participating. We have a very limited area to train in as our club rents a full indoor field. We get 1/2 of a quarter field which is roughly 20 x 30 so very tight space to train in. You will see what my field layout looks like in the email.
Best,
DamianU10 boys, indoor/winter 7v7.
We have a lot of work to do, so I’m praying that this isn’t my best work! Lol. This is our 1st game of playing on a big field for indoor doing 7v7. Hopefully this will be the video we look back on and say wow they are soooo much better now than they were in this video. I’ll get some more video up so you guys can see the developmental progress.
We have done a lot of work on the 4v1 rondo and we still do a lot of individual skill work. The kids are trying some of the right things, but it’s obvious they need a lot more reps of building the possession out of the back. 🙂
I have my ideas, but you what do you guys think? How would you start the process of really helping these kids get the spacing correct and playing the ball out of the back? I don’t want to throw too much at them and I don’t want to under estimate what they can handle.
Thoughts?
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I have to train two teams together, any thoughts on keeping the kids engaged and focused when doing any of the drills that are more tactical based. High pressure or playing out of the back. My thought is they can learn a lot of from watching too, but getting them to watch is the key.
Alec – I coach U8/U9 and follow many of the concepts here for tactical work and goes very well for attention span, grasping info, etc. A few ideas I do for this age when doing tactical work:
-Start with static passing like the V – Lose Your Man. Work in concepts like give/go; up/back/thru; diagonal thru ball in this same set up. Gives young kids technical repetition related to the game.
-Next Pattern Play of 6v0 or 8v0 (pending 6v6 or 8v8).
-Lastly, move game to 6v3 or 8v4. Poob, Mid 1/3, or Attack 1/3 zone. I add in 5 pass rule then a combo/pattern to get out of the zone. Lop-sided game adds pressure to gain confidence while passing rule is the focus of correct positioning. I know some people don’t like 5-pass, but I do to focus on correct movements/positioning. I also change the size of the zone…at times small area of 15×15 up to, at times, regular width of field.
Other tactical ideas I do:
Positional Play – 4v4+3 grid size pending
Switch Field 7v4 – draw field in vertical 1/3 and must switch the field 2x before heading to next 1/3 of field. Same concept in mind as Pattern Play above.
What does your 6v0 Pattern Play look like? I’ve struggled with how exactly I want the ball to circulate.
Alec – Cant figure our how to post a picture of my drawing so will wing it.
I use 4 patterns in 6v6.
1.) Give/Go – DEF to Winger to CF to Winger OR Def to CF to Winger to CF.
2.) Up/Back/Thru – Def to CF to thru Winger
3.) Overlap/Underlap – Defender over/underlap with Winger. Either way is fine by me.
4.) Diagonal Thru Ball – either Defender to CF. CF thru ball to Winger.(Winger loses man forward) OR Def to Winger. Winger thru ball to CF (CF loses man forward)
Play out of Back:
Ball Side Wingers Job = Lose Man…Back and wide. Body position with Receive back foot. Lose Man Inside or Forward if needed.
CF job = find open space and passing lane. At U9, Look Around to find space.
Weak Side Winger = Stay WIDE (not in middle of field and not on touchline – half space if you will). If ball is circulated through back then as ball is working his direction find space back and wide to touchline area (lose man if needed).
Defenders = on each side of box on goal kick. Once ball played to opposite defender the weak side defender runs to middle of field (in line w/ his goal post…roughly). Finding passing lanes for support and keeping space in case ball is circulated for switch. In middle of field for 6v6 b/c if other Defender or CF Loses ball it’s an easy goal for opponent….a little different tweak for 8v8…a little wider. (At U8, goalie is not involved in play. At U9, we do…at times. We don’t have a full time goalie and circulate some field players so makes things difficult. Will get goalie next year and implement goalie in possession.)
SEE BELOW:
At times, 1-2-3 and others a 1-2-1-2 on offense. Defense usually a 2-1-2 or 3-2 look pending on opponent. CF can drop into middle when needed to support defenders.
*If ball played to left defender on goal kick. Position noted is starting spot; X=movement area off initial pass. If ball goes Left Defender to LF and back to LD…as ball goes to RD for switch, the RF begins to move wide to touch line looking for passing lane. CF works to support ball side. At U8, I simplify overload terms with if 3-4 defenders on same side of field, switch field and look for 1v1 or 2v1. At U9, I start to ask them to think to look for overloads.
LF x CF RF
x x x x
DEF x DEF
Goalie
Hope this makes sense. If I can figure out how to post a picture of my drawing that may help more.
We are the light blue team in this video. The previous video in this thread was the 1st game of winter league and this is the last. The play is better, but we still have a long way to go. Space is really limited in the winter, so I’m looking forward to outdoor when we have more than a small basketball court to practice on. I think by the end of spring the comparison of progress will be huge! I hope! 🙂
Love to hear any feedback.
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Here is our U9 boys. Some promising stuff from a young group of u9s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tD0fxWFEd0
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Very nice Alec! Numerous 7-8 pass sequence, positional play leading to scoring chances. Keep it up!
Thanks Phil! I didn’t know if U9s could understand spacing and possession concepts, but they seem to be getting it. This is our first time as a club trying to teach possession this young. I’m hoping the speed and smoothness of the possession will come with repetition over the years. If we keep working on it every practice and game from U9 to U18, it could be pretty fast and smooth in a few years!
It looks good. I coach U8 and U9 boys….both ages can oplay this way. The kids at this age are more capable than many coaches in the US give them credit. OR the coaches don’t know how to coach it.
I’ll have to post some video this Spring (I posted 6v6 U8 last year).
I can see your stamp on this. Good luck in the future.
More possession highlights from the U9 Toca FC. Getting better, little by little…
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